Business and Tourism Activity Panel (BTAP) Minutes
September 12, 2001
Date: September 12, 2001
Santa Cruz Harbor Public Meeting Room
Dave Ebert, US Abalone, BTAP Chair; SAC member
Joe Cavanaugh, Monterey Abalone Company
Dan Haifley, ONeill Sea Odyssey, SAC member
Holly Price, Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary
Karen Grimmer, Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary
Stephanie Harlan, AMBAG, SAC Chair
Steve Scheiblauer, City of Monterey
Maggie Ivy, Santa Cruz Conference & Visitors Center
Rita Law, Aptos Chamber of Commerce
Marc Monte, Monte Foundation
David Clayton, SAC member
John Hibble, Aptos Chamber of Commerce
Charles Mier, Crows Nest, Shadow Brook
Brian Foss, Santa Cruz Port District
Linda Horning, Moss Landing Harbor District
Meeting Notes - a Summary of the Meetings Proceedings.
Dave Ebert, BTAP Chair gave welcoming comments. Individual introductions
commenced. Dave gave an introduction to new members about the BTAP and
its relationship to the Sanctuary Advisory Council (SAC), the SACs
role, and its other three related working groups (Sanctuary Education
Panel, Research Activity Panel, and Conservation Working Group), the SAC
meeting schedule and listserv access. Comments were added in regard to
NOAAs role, public officials role, and the advisory role of the
introduced the main topic for the day as the discussion of issues relative
to the MBNMS management plan review. He explained that the Sanctuary is
getting ready to update its existing management plan, and is requesting
input from the BTAP on issues of concern. At the October 5, 2001 Sanctuary
Advisory Council meeting, all four working groups of the SAC will present
their issues to the Council. This will give the Council input prior to
their upcoming public scoping meeting, tentatively scheduled for December
Issues Relative to the MBNMS Management Plan Review (MPR) Process
Dave Ebert passed out a document "Draft BTAP Recommendations"
that was the product of a subcommittee meeting in August at the Monterey
Harbor District office. The subcommittee included Dave Ebert, Maggie Ivy,
Steve Scheiblauer, John Robinson, and Joe Cavanaugh.
document included a list of issues, associated problem statements and
solutions that addressed thirteen issues: Program Accomplishments; Respect
Original Consensus-Building that Created the Sanctuary; Sanctuary Advisory
Council; Fishing; Human Impacts; Public Events; Sanctuary Boundary; Large
Vessel (cruise line); Dredging; Permit Authority; Aquaculture; Fiber Optic
Cables; and Kelp.
input for new issues and comments on the existing document. Dan Haifley
requested clarification on the document and the process, specifically
in regard to if the BTAP would be putting forward the subcommittees
draft document or developing a new document. Steve Scheiblauer explained
that the draft had originated from a prior document developed for a Monterey
City Council meeting. The group decided to review each of the 13 items
included in the draft, and then re-craft a new document that incorporated
the comments from todays meeting.
were offered on the following issues:
Water Quality Issues - This item included concerns about sewage spills,
unknown spills, local, state and federal funding, and getting more current
information to the community such as posting county health department
phone to BTAP.
Events & Human Impacts - These were two separate but related items.
The group requested that the new management plan add in new language
regarding firework shows and other public events. Streamlining the firework
permitting process and consolidating the application process was recommended.
Holly Price briefed the group on the current status in regard to the
potential MOU with NMFS and USFWS. Marc Monte suggested that the Sanctuary
consider utilizing a non-biased party to collect monitoring data such
as students from UCSC or Cabrillo College. Others concurred, and commented
that we need to develop "indicators" for monitoring human
Original Consensus-Building that Created the Sanctuary - There was a
general discussion around the need to "codify" the original
agreements made with local entities (i.e. agriculture, fishing, the
- This was tied into the above discussion, and agreed that clearer language
should be included that the Sanctuary will not regulate fishing. Steve
Scheiblauer gave some background on current efforts with the Alliance
of Communities for Sustainable Fisheries (a group that includes fishermen,
scientists and managers).
Plan Stephanie Harlan recommended that such a plan would allow
us to better identify and support collaborative efforts between the
Sanctuary and local businesses. Others supported the idea.
Boundary This item suggested difficulties with the current boundary
abutting the coast and highly urbanized areas. Some commented that a
boundary change is not a issue that should be addressed by the BTAP.
(Note: The issue is being approached from a biogeographic analysis,
and data will be collected and submitted by a number of agencies.) The
group decided to omit this item.
Vessel (cruise liners) There was discussion on the potential
economic benefits and conservation issues around this topic. A suggestion
was made to emphasize the educational opportunities that would be available
if liners were utilizing the harbors. It was decided to redefine the
problem statement and solution.
Steve Scheiblauer and Brian Foss described the current language,
and expressed some frustration with the permitting process. Holly Price
offered some background from the Sanctuarys perspective. Stephanie
Harlan commented that she was concerned about this group addressing
complex issues such as dredging (and other issues) without having more
background information and understanding of the issues involved. Karen
Grimmer clarified that this is preliminary input to the SAC, and there
will be additional opportunities next year for the BTAP to give more
detailed input on the management plan review process, and suggested
that dredging issues could be addressed after the group has a presentation
at a future BTAP meeting. Stephanie stressed the importance of having
full community involvement in the MPR process, and she encouraged the
group to motivate their friends and colleagues to go to the upcoming
public scoping meetings and give their input.
Authority this had been somewhat addressed in a prior item, but
it was reiterated that the Sanctuary should be required to work through
existing agencies "permit authority".
there was concern with the existing language allowing for regulation,
and consistent with fishing clarify the language that the Sanctuary
will not regulate this activity.
Optic Cables consistent with the dredging item, this will be
omitted and added later after further background study and investigation.
no action needed if the Sanctuary reaffirms its policy that this
issue has been dealt with in the CFG process.
Advisory Council David Clayton and Steve Scheiblauer expressed
concerns with the SAC appointment process being controlled by NOAA,
control of SAC correspondence and meeting agendas, and a limited oversight
of the program. Dan Haifley expressed that he cannot support all the
language in the draft. The SAC is subject to federal law, as the Sanctuary
is a federal agency, and cannot be organized under State or local law
as a separate entity. Karen Grimmer expressed that to her knowledge
(and the previous SAC coordinators) there has been no control
of agendas or correspondence, and that these concerns are no longer
an issue. Concern was expressed that if a change in administration were
to occur, such issues could resurface. This topic was carried to the
next subcommittee meeting scheduled for September 19th in Monterey.
meeting date November 14, 2001. Location TBA
Main topic: MBNMS Management Plan Review process
adjourned at 12:00 PM
Notes submitted by Karen Grimmer, MBNMS Advisory Council Coordinator