SAC Meeting Minutes
BAY NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY ADVISORY
June 7, 2002
Big Sur Lodge
Pfeiffer Big Sur State Park
Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary (MBNMS) Advisory Council met
on Friday, June 7, 2002, at the Big Sur Lodge at Pfeiffer Big Sur State
Park, California. Public categories and government agencies were present
Agriculture: Richard Nutter
CA State Parks: George Cook
AMBAG: Stephanie Harlan
Conservation: Kaitlin Gaffney
At Large: Ron Massengill
Diving: Frank Degnan
At Large: Jenna Kinghorn - ABSENT
Education: Pat Clark-Gray
At Large: Deborah Streeter
Fishing: Thomas Canale
Business & Industry: Dave
Ports & Harbors: Brian Foss
CA Coastal Commission: Tami
Grove - ABSENT
Recreation: Dan Haifley
CA Dept. of Fish and Game: awaiting
Research: Chris Harrold
CA EPA: Craig J. Wilson
Tourism: Ted Balestreri
CA Resources Agency: Brian Baird
U.S. Coast Guard: LT Tom Stuhlreyer
The following non-voting
members were present as indicated:
Channel Islands NMS: LCDR
Matt Pickett - ABSENT
Gulf of the Farallones NMS
and Cordell Bank NMS: Ed Ueber - ABSENT
Elkhorn Slough NERR: Becky
Christensen - ABSENT
Monterey Bay NMS: William
Mitteldorf, At Large
CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL. SWEAR-IN OF NEW SAC MEMBERS
New SAC Members took the oath:
Cook - CA State Parks
Degnan - Diving
Criss - Tourism
NOMINATIONS & SELECTIONS FOR SAC CHAIR
Stephanie Harlan was nominated for her second two-year term as SAC
Motion introduced by Kaitilin Gaffney seconded by Chris Harrold
(Vote:16 in favor, 0 opposed (unanimous))
APPROVAL OF 2/25/02 DRAFT MEETING NOTES
The SAC adopted the minutes from the February 25, 2001 Sanctuary Advisory
Council meeting, with the following changes.
grammatical and punctual edits were made on pages 1, 2, 3, &
Motion introduced by Chris Harrold, seconded by Deborah Streeter (Vote:
16 in favor, 0 opposed (unanimous))
The SAC expressed frustration that the Sanctuary’s website did
not include information and materials for this SAC meeting. They asked
Bill Douros to pass along their frustrations to NMSP/NOAA headquarters
and ask that SAC materials be made available for future meetings and
in advance of all future meetings.
II. SELF INTRODUCTION OF NEW SAC MEMBERS
III. PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
Shoosh Crotzer read a letter re: continued discussion of the expansion
of the Monterey Bay Sanctuary to the south. See the letter submitted
for the record.
Mary Dickson asked MBNMS to drop Seacliff State Beach from list of
potential visitor center sites. She suggested a 66-acre Porter Sesnon
property as an alternative site to Seacliff, and asked the Council
to consider more commercial areas for a visitor center, or partner
with an existing facility, such as the Monterey Bay Aquarium. Bill
responded with an update on the status of the visitor center on the
feasibility of three sites: Santa Cruz Wharf area, Seacliff State
Beach and an area to be determined in Monterey.
Mike Becker, Business & Tourism Activity Panel member, requested
the Council to please read BTAP letter regarding cruise ships. He
commented that Monterey County Hospitality Association supports the
IV. UPDATE: REPORT ON SAC ISSUE PRIORITATION JOINT MANAGEMENT PLAN REVIEW
Sean Morton presented the Report on SAC Issue Prioritization Workshops
The next report will include a staff analysis and we will request
the SAC help again at the August SAC meeting. The timeline looks like
the following. In August we will get the SAC’s advice on the
list of priorities, and in September have a draft action plan and
begin to form working groups. In three to six months we will be getting
in to the meat of how to implement these issues.
SAC member questions and discussion included clarification on moving
the boundary issue, and if it is included in the JMPR issues. Sean
responded that yes, the issue is included. Also, the date of a draft
management plan, should be approximately one year from August.
The SAC discussed the process of the next decision-making process.
How do we look at the cross-cutting vs. the site specific. Sean responded
that we should look at the results by bin as a score card.
The SAC made a motion to add a special public comment evening session
in Cambria on August 1, 2002, prior to the August 2nd SAC meeting.
Motion introduced by Dan Haifley, seconded by Kaitilin Gaffney
(Vote: 16 in favor, 0 opposed (unanimous))
V. PRESENTATION: CRUISE SHIPS
de Marignac gave an introduction to the topic, potential concerns,
Following is the presentation.
Cruise Ship Visits to Monterey Bay 2002
2. This Year’s Cruise Ship Visits
May 7 - “Star Princess” (Princess Cruises)
2,600 passengers and 1,000 crew
September 18 - “Grandeur of the Sea” (Royal Caribbean)
1,950 passengers and 500 Crew
October 9 - “Crystal Harmony” (Crystal Cruises)
940 passengers and 545 crew
Potential Concerns Regarding Cruise Ships
water (dishwashers, sinks, showers, galleys, laundries)
(from deck wash downs)
too close to shoreline
or habitat damage
mammal & bird harassment
record of violations
Mandate & Regulations
protection, research, education and public use
prohibit discharges into the Sanctuary
discharge of oily bilge water
new municipal or private sewage outfalls
Voluntary Compliance Programs
MBNMS uses a “stewardship” approach to resource
of some voluntary compliance programs:
Quality Protection Program
Vessel Traffic Lanes approved by IMO
Role of MBNMS
potential environmental impacts
short- and long-term solutions
Voluntary Agreement with Princess
in vessel traffic lanes
at a designated location
with MBNMS to provide education to passengers
records confirming no discharge
“Star Princess” Visit
passengers brought ashore due to weather conditions
and other agencies met with cruise line industry
Caribbean and Crystal Cruises agreed to no discharge policy
for their visits
What About Monitoring?
Current monitoring practices -
reports to CA
Regular inspections by US Coast Guard and occasional surprise
Potential future options -
surveys by NOAA and/or US Coast Guard to look for cruise ship
will continue to work with the cruise line industry
will also continue to facilitate constructive dialog among stakeholders
SAC discussed the above issues including the volume of discharge,
and the possibility of staff onboard for monitoring and interpreting
purposes. They discussed the economic benefits for return visitors
potentially ranging from $90 to $200 a day for spending/per person.
A Sanctuary tour for visitors was suggested. Stewardship approach
is assuming good intentions and trusting people to care about the
Steve Scheiblauer offered a historical look at City of Monterey’s
dealings with cruise ships, and explained the that the City undertook
a “welcoming approach”. He advised the Council that the
Celebrity cruise ship Harmony, owned by Royal Caribbean, had made
inquires for 2003 and 2004. The following website will be updated
on confirmations for cruise visits, and information about events.
Kaitilin Gaffney presented the Conservation Working Group letter and
asked that the SAC recommend to the Sanctuary that we require no discharge.
She suggested other options are to write a letter to EPA or work with
the state task force. Kaitilin commented that since the cruise ship
lines had agreed voluntarily to a no discharge requirement, we should
take the opportunity to make it a regulation, and the SAC should be
on record to support a new regulation. The City of Monterey, and the
Central Coast Regional Water Quality Control Board are also supportive.
Following was a brief discussion involving the BTAP letter. Dave Ebert
explained the process of drafting and reviewing the letter by subcommittee.
Dan Haifley commented that as a BTAP member, he had not been offered
the opportunity to review the letter, and he also asked for clarification
of the term “beyond the law.” Steve Scheiblauer responded
that the letter was referring to gray water. Dave added the main question
is - does the Sanctuary want the benefits of cruise ships here? Bill
Douros requested clarification of the 3rd paragraph and expressed
concern with the process of drafting and reviewing the letter. He
felt that the overall feel of the letter is negative. Ted Balistreri
commented that we are all on the same page, and we need to work out
a process that is beneficial to all parties. Other SAC members expressed
concern that the letter seemed negative when all parties thought the
issue was resolved positively.
A member of the public, Doug Lumston, President of Monterey Bay Scenic
Tours offered some comments about the May 7th experience, and looks
forward to working with the Sanctuary and the City to provide future
land tours for cruise ship visitors.
After making and amending the first motion, the SAC agreed to the
The SAC made a motion to encourage staff to continue their good work,
as outlined in the recommendations 2 through 7 in the CWG letter.
Motion introduced by Dan Haifley, seconded by Kaitilin Gaffney
(Vote: 15 in favor, 0 opposed (unanimous))
special presentation and dedication to Rachel Saunders commenced.
The CWG and the SEP Chairs, Kaitilin and Pat, the SAC Chair and Secretary,
Stephanie and Dan recognized Rachel for her many years of service
to the SAC.
PRESENTATION BIOGEOGRAPHY/ECOLINKAGES REPORT FOR THE JOINT MANAGEMENT
Mark Monaco, NOAA project manager, gave an introduction to the full
study area of the survey, the survey process (Ecolinkages Report,
GIS analysis, GIS tool development), project objectives, (organizing
data in GIS), identifying important areas, producing a report, supporting
NMSP, and developing products.
Dr. Satie Airame gave an introduction to her report – Marine
and Estuarine Systems of Northern Central California including , geographic
setting , ocean processes, ecosystems, natural perturbations, human
impacts, and conclusions. She offered some of the new information
generated from the report, such as a more cohesive understanding of
current movement and upwelling related to Monterey Canyon. In response
to boundary related questions, Satie presented the ecosystem boundary
data for the entire West Coast, specific to fish, inverts and other
VIII. UPDATE: REAUTHORIZATION OF SAC CHARTER
explained that the current SAC Charter had expired, and recommended
reauthorizing the Charter, with some minor edits, for a one to two
The SAC made a motion to extend the current SAC Charter, with some
minor clean up edits, for two years.
Motion introduced by Brian Foss, seconded by Ron Massengill
(Vote: 15 in favor, 0 opposed (unanimous))
PRESENTATION: US COMMISSION ON OCEAN POLICY
Bill Douros gave an update on his Sanctuary presentation to the U.S.
Commission on Ocean Policy. The twenty minute presentation included
an overview of MBNMS history, focus on programs, users, partnerships,
Water Quality Protection Program, Vessel Traffic program, stakeholder
process, future issues, Joint Management Plan Review, and MERITO (Multicultural
Education for Resource Issues Threatening Oceans.)
DISCUSSION: SPECIAL USE PERMITS
Price introduced the discussion by explaining that special use permits
granted permission to conduct activities that would normally be prohibited.
One of the Sanctuary’s most restrictive permit is that one cannot
destroy, damage or alter the Sanctuary’s seabed. Cables are
currently covered under special permits, but ‘maintenance’
is now also being considered as covered under special use permits.
Kaitilin Gaffney reminded the Advisory Council about past comments
directed to NOAA on fiber optic cables, and requested that the SAC
submit a brief letter to NOAA to request reconsideration of Special
Use Permits as appropriate relative to cable maintenance. After considerable
discussion by SAC members regarding their level of knowledge of this
issue, and their awareness of the issue in general requiring an action,
the SAC made a motion.
The SAC made a motion to submit a brief letter to the Office of National
Marine Sanctuaries asking it to reconsider whether the Special Use
Permits are the appropriate permit to approve fiber optic cable maintenance.
Motion introduced by Kaitilin Gaffney, seconded by Dan Haifley
(Vote: 10 in favor, 2 opposed, 3 abstained )
X. DISCUSSION: BIODIESEL FUEL
Tiura gave a presentation on the pros and cons of using biodiesel
fuel, and requested abrainstorming session on how to encourage use
of the fuel. She explained that it can be used at a 25% mix, and runs
very clean. There is no diesel smell and people are less nauseated.
On the flip side, it has a scouring effect in fuel tanks, and can
potentially clog fuel filters. Expense is also the limiting factor,
at $3 per gallon. Steve Scheiblauer offered some comments about past
experience with biodiesel power at the harbor, and felt that it would
be a great thing to encourage.
UPDATE: SANCTUARY SCENIC TRAIL; ANNIVERSARY EVENTS
gave an update on the Santa Cruz 50 ways to get your feet wet brochure,
and the scenic trail project. Congressman Sam Farr is working on
the Monterey Bay region. AMBAG has proposed locations for the signs.
Stephanie passed around the new trail development brochure and tool
for SAC members to peruse.
ACTIONS: SET AUGUST SAC MEETING AGENDA
SAC affirmed it would have only two issues on the agenda for the next
meeting-a presentation on the Davidson Seamount mission and advice
by the SAC on the JMPR priorities.
meeting adjourned at 4:10 p.m.
Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary Advisory Council Coordinator