SAC Meeting Minutes
BAY NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY
October 3, 2003
Cavalier Oceanfront Resort
San Simeon, CA
The Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary (MBNMS) Advisory
Council (Council) met on Friday, October 3, 2003, at
the Cavalier Oceanfront
Resort, California. Public categories and government agencies were
present as indicated:
State Parks: Dave Vincent-ABSENT
Large: Ron Massengill
Large: Mike Laffen
Large: Deborah Streeter
& Industry: Dave Ebert
& Harbors: Peter Grenell
Coastal Commission: Charles Lester-ABSENT
Dept. of Fish and Game:Paul Reilly
EPA: Russ Jeffries
Resources Agency: Brian Baird-ABSENT
Coast Guard: LT Deborah Darminio-ABSENT
The following non-voting members were present as indicated:
Islands NMS: Chris Mobley
Gulf of the Farallones NMS: Ed Ueber-ABSENT
Cordell Bank NMS: Dan Howard-ABSENT
Elkhorn Slough NERR: Becky Christensen-ABSENT
Monterey Bay NMS: William J. Douros
present in audience:
Harriet Mittledorf-Citizen At-Large
I. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, SWEAR-IN OF NEW MEMBERS
OF June 26-27 and July/August DRAFT meeting notes
The SAC adopted the minutes from the June 26-27, 2003 Sanctuary
Advisory Council meeting, with the following changes:
Massengill was in attendance on June 26, not absent.
the date on the second day to read June 27, not June 26
introduced by Dan Haifley, seconded by Dave Ebert
(Vote: 13 in favor, 0 opposed (unanimous))
The SAC adopted the minutes from the July 30-August 1 and August
22, 2003 Sanctuary Advisory Council meeting, with no
Motion introduced by Dave Ebert, seconded by Ron Massengill (Vote:
13 in favor, 0 opposed (unanimous))
Bill Douros swore in the new CA EPA representatives,
Russ Jeffries and Eric Gobler.
SELECTION OF SUBCOMMITTEE FOR SEATS UP IN 2004
The MBNMS must conduct recruitments for the following
primary and alternate representatives on the Advisory
seats), Business, Conservation, Fishing, Recreation,
Research. All of the seats not up for expiration
in 2004 were asked to
participate in the selection subcommittee. Those participating
Harlan (AMBAG), Mike Laffen (At-large), Pat Clark-Gray
(Education), Paul Reilly (CA Dept of Fish & Game), Russ
Jeffries (CA EPA) and Frank Degnan (Diving) were asked by
to meet and give
their recommendations to Bill on the new seats for
WELCOME FROM THE COUNTY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO
Greg Haas, District Director for Congresswoman Lois Capps,
welcomed the Advisory Council to the Congresswoman’s district.
Greg commented that he would like to see more representation
from the southern region
during the 2004 recruitment.
Shirley Bianchi, Supervisor for San Luis Obispo County,
welcomed the Advisory Council to her district. She thanked
the Advisory Council
for the opportunity to form the Marine Interest Group.
Vreeland, speaking as an AMBAG representative as well as a private
citizen, expressed that local government plays an important
what the Advisory Council does. She also spoke about having a small
visitor center in Monterey.
FRIENDS OF THE ELEPHANT SEAL PRESENTATION
Johnson, gave a presentation on the Friends of the Elephant Seal
(FES). He invited the Advisory Council to visit the office/bookstore,
which is in the same complex as the meeting room. Bill presented
Advisory Council with some very interesting facts: there are about
10,000 elephant seal in the San Simeon colony, 2600 pups were born
this year, which is a 26% increase from last year, FES docents talk
to approximately 80,000-100,000 visitors a year. He informed the
Advisory Council of the boardwalk that is currently being built
by the California
Conservation Corps, to allow for safer viewing of the elephant seal.
Completion of the boardwalk will be the end of October with a ribbon
cutting ceremony on November 7th.
UPDATE ON THE PIEDRAS BLANCAS LIGHTHOUSE
Bugati, site manager, gave a presentation on the Piedras Blancas
Lighthouse. The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) claimed ownership
of the lighthouse in 2000 when the United States Coast Guard
gave it up.
BLM has making infrastructure changes and put in about $125,000 worth
of living/administrative improvements and water system improvements.
Two major activities they have undertaken are the native plant restoration
and a tour program. Currently, tickets to visit the lighthouse are
sold out until February when the contract is up. John stated that
he would like to invite the Advisory Council to view the lighthouse
DISCUSSION OF SAC INVOLVEMENT IN REAUTHORIZATION OF NMSA
Douros explained the process for the NMSA reauthorization and what
role the Advisory Council could play in it. The NMSP
input from the Advisory
Council on the proposed NMSA reauthorization. The Advisory Council has two
options: they could choose to make no comments or decide to
make proposed changes. If
the Advisory Council chose to make changes, they would have to be passed at
the December 5, 2003 meeting in order to get their comments
to Headquarters by the
December 20, 2003 deadline. The Advisory Council could work through a letter
at the December 5th meeting together, or a subcommittee could meet and put
forth recommended changes at the December 5th meeting for the
After some discussion the Advisory Council agreed to not develop a working
group and a discussion of the NMSA reauthorization would be placed on the December
5th agenda for one hour. The Advisory Council stated that they may wait until
later in the NMSA reauthorization to make any comments.
UPDATE ON JOINT MANAGEMENT PLAN REVIEW
Morton gave a brief presentation on the next steps for the MBNMS
staff and the Advisory Council regarding the Joint Management
Plan Review. Bill thanked
the Advisory Council for the comments they provided and let them know that
he intended to incorporate 100% of the changes they requested,
and if not, staff
would let them know.
DISCUSSION OF FUTURE SEATS ON MBNMS ADVISORY COUNCIL
Harlan opened this discussion with the suggestion that the Advisory
Council set up a subcommittee to develop a process
addressing the addition of
new members to the Advisory Council. This subcommittee would not address any
particular seats that would be added. Bill briefly reminded the Advisory Council
that the National Marine Sanctuaries Act states that certain Advisory Council’s
(those for sites designated after November 1992, thus, not the MBNMS) should
be no bigger than 15 voting members the NMSP encourages those sites who can
statutorily have larger Advisory Councils to nonetheless limit the Advisory
Council to 20
voting members. He explained that the subcommittee’s process needed to
consider an alternative that may add a new seat(s) but nonetheless keep the
Advisory Council to 20 members (its current size).
Kaitilin Gaffney asked Mike Murray, Council Coordinator for CINMS, if their
Advisory Council had addressed the issue of adding seats to their Advisory
what their process was. They had received several proposals to add several
seats to the Advisory Council and kept in mind the cap on Advisory Councils.
that they will be adding two new seats soon, a recreational fishing seat and
a Chumash/Native American seat. To add these seats, they will be removing one
of the Citizen At-Large seats. The recreational fishing seat was a commercial
fishing seat, but they used one of the alternates to make up the recreational
fishing seat. They now have one consumptive and one non-consumptive fishing
Stephanie asked for volunteers to create the subcommittee and bring back a
recommendation to the Advisory Council at a future meeting. Deborah Streeter(Chair),
Harriet Mitteldorf, Ruth Vreeland, Peter Grenell, Dave Ebert, Chris Harrold
and Kaitilin Gaffney. Stephanie commented that she would ask Tami Grove if
be interested in volunteering for the subcommittee.
SPECIAL MARINE PROTECTED AREA’S WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATION
AND AN UPDATE ON THE COAST HIGHWAY MANAGEMENT PLAN
Price, Resource Protection Coordinator, gave an update on the most
recent MPA working group meeting held on September
25th. The group will be meeting again
on October 17th. Their hope is to be present a recommendation to the Advisory
Council at the December 5th meeting. Paul Reilly, CDFG alternate, gave a brief
update on the status of the MLPA process.
Holly also gave a brief update on the Coast Highway Management Plan, which
the Sanctuary has been working on jointly with CALTRANS. The plan should be
signature process within the next couple of months.
DeVogelaere, Research Coordinator, presented each Advisory Council
member with a copy of the Davidson Seamount CD that was
created for educational purposes.
Andrew demonstrated the CD’s many different features. The CD’s
were very well received; several people wanted extra copies
to distribute to local
schools and friends.
MOTORIZED PERSONAL WATERCRAFT WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATION
Kathey, Regulatory Coordinator, gave an overview of task the Advisory
Council gave the Motorized Personal Watercraft
working group at the July/August meeting.
The working group did not reach consensus as to whether or not NOAA should
allow a volunteer rescue patrol at the Mavericks surf break
in Half Moon Bay. Scott
provided the Advisory Council with a handout addressing the points that the
group did reach consensus on as necessary steps should NOAA
consider authorizing a
volunteer rescue patrol. Dan Haifley, Recreation primary, commented that the
working group has reached the end; the working group cannot go any further.
Peter Grenell, San Mateo Harbormaster and Harbor primary, agreed
with Dan and suggested
this issue should not be pursued futher.
The Advisory Council reached consensus that there is no need to make any modification
to the Motorized Personal Watercraft proposed action plan for private rescue
groups to be allowed at Mavericks.
Roest, Education and Outreach Specialist, gave a summary of a research
dive conducted on the shipwreck Montebello on
September 22 – 25. The archeological
research team included Robert Schwemmer from CINMS, John Foster from State
Parks, and Jack Hunter from CalTrans, as well as Dave Lott,
Jean de Marginac, Erica
Burton and Michele Roest from MBNMS. The Montebello sank 1.6 nm outside the
southern sanctuary boundary in 1941 with a hull full of heavy
The expedition was able to determine that no oil was leaking from the hull.
It also found new parts of the wreck, including discovery of the masts, not
in a previous dive in 1996. Better GPS points of the wreck location and orientation
were achieved as well as a more comprehensive species list of the fish and
invertebrates observed on and around the wreck.
A press event was held after the expedition, with good coverage by local newspapers
ADVISORY COUNCIL MEMBER ANNOUNCEMENTS
Harlan announced the three Thursday night lecture series at Long
Marine Lab Seymour Discovery Center. The lecture series
consisted of speakers such as
Leon Panetta, Julie Packard and several local scientists.
Ron Massengill commented on the drainage pipes that were removed at Fort Ord,
which had been a past priority of the Conservation Working Group and was toured
by the Advisory Council.
Kirk Schmidt announced the EcoFarm celebration “Farms to Fishes” in
January. It will be hosted by Passionfish, a sustainable seafood organization.
Pat Clark-Gray commented on the CA Coastal Cleanup. She passed around the Turkey
Vulture patch that was handed out to those Boy Scouts that participated in
Stephanie Harlan gave a brief update on the Santa Cruz Sanitation District.
The Sanitation District was fined by the RWQCB for two spills that occurred
Part of the fine settlement resulted in the Sanitation District donating money
to the Department of Fish and Game to be used for grants for water quality
programs. Specifics on the programs were not available at that time. The Sanitation
is looking at all of their old sewage lines and are trying to come up with
a plan to fix them.
Paul Reilly announced that CALCOFI is having its conference this year on November
5th at Asilomar. This year’s theme will be invertebrate fisheries.
Bill announced for those who did not know, the Fun Spot was chosen as the Sanctuary
Visitor Center site. Bill explained that the local foundation, the Monterey
Bay Sanctuary Foundation, is not interested in helping to raise money, but
Marine Sanctuary Foundation is.
Chris Harrold told everyone to mark their calendars for the Sanctuary Currents
Symposium on Saturday, March 6th, 2004.
MARINE INTEREST GROUP UPDATE
Maruska, Marine Interest Group facilitator, gave an overview of the
Marine Interest Group (MIG) and what has been taking
place at the meetings. The group
has met approximately 20 times over the past year. He expressed the shared
hopes of those involved in the MIG. On October 15th, the MIG
has invited several Advisory
Council members to attend their meeting for a question/answer session. Several
members of the MIG gave brief presentations/testimonies to the Advisory Council.
There was no action taken by the Advisory Council on this matter. The Advisory
Council thanked the MIG members for all their hard work.
Oceanfront Resort, San Simeon
The meeting adjourned at 3:50
Sanctuary Advisory Council Coordinator